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Hermes Authentication Summary


Authentication Summary

This summary was written by The Vintage Contessa drawing from 30 plus years of personal and professional experience purveying and selling Hermes, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Gucci and other designer handbags and accessories. The overall summary includes extensive internet research and professional consultation with industry experts. This document should be used as a reference however, it is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate. The Vintage Contessa guarantees authenticity of all of our handbags and accessories, however this document alone will not assure authentication from any other source. As with any industry, there are exceptions to every rule and guideline modifications. Recommendations, modifications or changes are highly encouraged. Please email Info@thevintagecontessa.com.

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Hermes Birkin and Kelly Authentication
 

  • Leathers and Exotic Skins
    • Only the finest leathers and exotic skins are used to create each bag. The bags are made by hand with every detail considered in the process.
    • A Birkin bag should have very few if any bulges in the leather. It will sit upright and has a smooth silhouette.
    • All exotic skin Birkins and Kellys include crocodile, alligator, ostrich, lizard. Each is sold with a CITIES to be used for transportation. You will not be able to enter certain countries with an exotic bag without the passport for the Birkin/Kelly.
    • Hermes tri-color bags are rare.
    • Hermes utilizes both texured and smooth leather styles. Find out more here
      • Togo or calf is textured and scratch resistant
      • Ogo
      • Clemence is a softer leather
      • Natural Barenia
      • Chevre is goat
      • Box is smooth and shiny
      • Chamonix
      • swift is a newer leather
      • Rodeo is a newer leather.
      • Vibrato leather is created by stacking layers of goatskin together and then cutting a "cross-section", appearing striated.
      • Veau Graine Lisse is pressed, textured and currently discontinued
      • Courcheval is pressed, textured and currently discontinued.
  • Sizes and Styles
    • Birkins are made in the following sizes: 25, 30, 35, 40 and 45cm
      • The size 45 Birkin is generally used for travel and has longer straps.
      • The Picotin is often called the "baby Birkin" and does not truly fasten closed.
    • The Haut au Courries, High belt, is a Hermes bag that is similar to a Birkin, from the same family, with a body that it is slightly taller and straps that are shorter. The "High belts" or the Haut au Courries handbags are manufactured in sizes 27, 32, 37.
    • Kelly sizes: 20, 25, 28, 32, and 35 cm.
      • Kelly bag are made in two styles.
        • Rigide has exterior (outer) stitching and tends to be more costly.
        • Souple has interior stitching with a distressed softer leather.
      • All leather options are available, along with HW, and shoulder strap.
    • In the year 2006 – 2007 the Lindy and Bombay became popular models that are easy to find.
    • The Shooting Star bags, made by the Hermes craftsmen for their personal use, cannot be serviced by Hermes.
  • Hardware
    • Authentic Birkins are created with keys, clochette, buckle, and feet studs.
    • Most bags are created with Gold plated or Palladium finish. The more rare finishes are Brushed Gold, Silver, Brushed Silver, and Ruthenium
      • 24K plated gold
      • Silver palladium
      • Ruthenium or Burnished
      • Guilloche -Diamond cut pattern HW palladium]
    • The Birkin sits on four feet and will stand up on its own without wobbling. The feet will not screw off easily.
    • In general most hardware does not tarnish however tarnishing is possible but not peeling or wearing. For example if the hardware is palladium and gold is showing through, it is fake. If palladium shows wear and turns black, it is possibly authentic.
    • The lock will have the words Hermes engraved on the bottom and the number of the key which corresponds to the lock.
    • The lock will say "Hermes" on the bottom of it and the keys will be numbered to match the number of the lock. The keys will also say Hermes on the opposite side.
    • There are a few vintage Hermes bags with lock and key sets, that will also have Hermes etched on the reverse side.
    • The clochette cover is made of one piece of leather. Not two pieces sewn together.
    • From Purse Blog, picture below: Bags earlier than 2000 don't have any serial number under the lock. It just has Hermes stamp and the corresponding key number.
    • From purse blog, picture below: Hermes has changed style of lock numbering several times even within the last few years, so no, they are not necessarily consistent. And it is also possible that a lock/clochette may be bought separately if the original is lost so a newer lock can be sold with an older bag.




Stitching, Zipper and Detailing
  • The stitching will be slanted and even, in perfect alignment.
  • The majority of the time the stitching color will match the color of the bag.
  • Hermes stitch lines should be flawless, as every Hermes bag is handmade and hand sewn.
  • Sloppy, uneven stitching is an automatic red flag. Hermes bags are not made with a sewing machine, so every stitch is handmade and inspected.
  • Newer zippers are marked with large block letters that say HERMES.
  • An authentic Hermes zipper pull will remain parallel to the zipper line. If it flops down, or hangs down at a 90 degree angle from the zipper line, it is a fake. The zipper mechanism itself is a high quality design, one that is set up to lock (or hold) the zipper pull in a parallel position. This keeps the zipper pull from dangling loosely and remains stiff and in place.
  • Not all Kelly and Birkin zippers start with an “H” at the base of the zipper.
  • A Birkin has two inner pockets with zippered and non zippered pocket.

  • The leather straps that buckle on the front of the bag should be clean on the edges. (Top strap is fake; bottom strap is real)

Stamp-Logo
  • The front center exterior of the bag has a stamp stating “Hermes Paris, Made in Paris”. The words are clear and the accent on the second e.  Most stamps are created in silver and gold. However I have seen a bag with repair papers from Hermes that has a stamp in chocolate brown.
  • The wording will line up evenly and is centered. The top HERMES stamp is centered within the bottom MADE IN FRANCE stamp.
  • Hermes ALWAYS uses embossed markings on their bags.  They will never use a leather tag or metal nameplate or anything of that sort.

  • The logo stamp is consistent. However, I have an Evelyn bag purchased from Hermes in Paris and with wear, the accent mark of the E has faded.


  • Each Birkin has a stamp on the interior of the bag on the back flap of the leather. They will have the stamp of the years and the artisans ID stamp.
  • Hermes Date Code List
    • No Shape 1945 to 1970
      • - 1945 A
      • - 1946 B
      • - 1947 C
      • - 1948 D
      • - 1949 E
      • - 1950 F
      • - 1951 G
      • - 1952 H
      • - 1953 I
      • - 1954 J
      • - 1955 K
      • - 1956 L
      • - 1957 M
      • - 1958 N
      • - 1959 O
      • - 1960 P
      • - 1961 Q
      • - 1962 R
      • - 1963 S
      • - 1964 T
      • - 1965 U
      • - 1966 V
      • - 1967 W
      • - 1968 X
      • - 1969 Y
      • - 1970 Z
    • Circle- 1971 - 1996
      • - 1971 A
      • - 1972 B
      • - 1973 C
      • - 1974 D
      • - 1975 E
      • - 1976 F
      • - 1977 G
      • - 1978 H
      • - 1979 I
      • - 1980 J
      • - 1981 K
      • - 1982 L
      • - 1983 M
      • - 1984 N
      • - 1985 O
      • - 1986 P
      • - 1987 Q
      • - 1988 R
      • - 1989 S
      • - 1990 T
      • - 1991 U
      • - 1992 V
      • - 1993 W
      • - 1994 X
      • - 1995 Y
      • - 1996 Z
    • Square- 1997 - 2012
      • - 1997 A
      • - 1998 B
      • - 1999 C
      • - 2000 D
      • - 2001 E
      • - 2002 F
      • - 2003 G
      • - 2004 H
      • - 2005 I
      • - 2006 J
      • - 2007 K
      • - 2008 L
      • - 2009 M
      • - 2010 N
      • - 2011 O
      • - 2012 P
  • Exotic Skin Stamps
    • Square:  Indicates alligator skins
    • Carrot:  The “^” sign indicates Porosus Crocodile
    • Two dots:  The “. .” sign indicates Niloticus Crocodile (from the Nile river)
    • Dash: The “-“ sign indicates Lizard skin.

 Example of the Porosus Croc stamp

  • Colors
    • Gold -rich tan
    • Black
    • Blue Jean -sky blue
    • Raisin- Dark purple bright, lighter than violet
    • Violet- Bright purple
    • Cyclamen- Mixture of lavender and pink
    • Fuchsia- Rich, bright pink.
    • Potiron- Less bright orange with brown undertones. It appears dark on Chevre leather and bright on Togo.
    • Classic orange-Classic Hermes color in bright tangerine
    • Olive. Jade. Forest green
    • Chartruese: Green with yellow undertone
    • Vert Anis: Bright Apple green
    • Blue sapphire.
    • Turquoise: Bright green-blue
    • Blue Roi-Bright royal blue. In exotic leathers it has a denim-blue look. Thalassa: Mediterranean Sea Blue same family as Blue Jean, but deeper
    • Ink- blue-black Indigo
    • Dark Navy Blue Blue Jean- bright sky blue, (depending on leather texture[comes off as bright, on Braise.
    • Brique- Brick Red
    • Vermillion- Bright tomato red with orange undertone
    • Rouge Vif- bright cherry or lipstick red, raspberry pink undertone
    • Rouge Hermes- Deep wine red, blue/pink undertone
  • Dust Bag and Rain Cover
    • Vintage dustbags are Tan velour.
    • Newer dust bags were orange cotten flannel.
    • Post 2007 they are a beige and light brown Herringbone Toile. 
    • The rain cover is soft to the touch and included in every bag. 
  • Tags, Authenticity Papers, Receipts
    • Hermes bags are note sold with card certificates or paper. Orange authenticity cards and hang tags are NOT provided by Hermes.
    • Original receipts are not a guarantee of authenticity.  Receipts can be counterfeited, just like anything else.  If a seller makes this claim, as for a copy and make sure the receipt has the Hermes store name and number, and the client name/number.  Use this information to call the store and ask them to verify that the bag was originally purchased at there.
    •    Each client has a sales assistant that can validate a bag and model was purchased at their boutique.
    • Hermes bags are NOT made with plastic wrapping or hangtags on them.




Hermes Scarves

  • Weight, Fabric and Size
    • An authentic Hermès carrè scarf is 100% silk, measuring 35” x 35”, weighing approximately 63 grams or 2.2. ounces. An authentic Hermès carrè will be exactly 35” x 35” or 90 x 90 cm. The exception to this will be scarves such as the pocket square, GM shawl, or pre owned and vintage scarves. Silk fibers shrink when dry cleaning or hand washing so measurements of pre owned or vintage scarf may vary.
  • Color
    • Most Hermès scarves are very colorful and also beautifully finished and have depth to them.
  • Back of carrè.
    • Design on an authentic Hermès carrè is clearly color saturated on the back and the front.
  • Care tag.
    • Hermès has changed the size and style of care tags a numerous times.
    • Prior to 1987, Hermès care tags were written in French and or English. Occasionally they were made with a Department store tag, such as the Bonwit Teller care tag.  The tag may include washing / care symbols.
    • After 1987, Hermès care tags were written in both French & English as noted below : 
      • Fabrique en France / Made in France  100% soie /  100% silk  Dry clean only
      • Washing / care symbols appear
    • After 1998, Hermès care tags were written in both French & English as noted below:
      • Made in France
      • Soie 100% Silk
      • Dry clean only
      • Washing / care symbols appear
  • Copyright Symbol
    • Hermès began to copyright their scarves in approximately 1968.
    • For several years, the placement of the copyright symbol moved to different locations on the design. Copyrights may appear in the lower center panel next to Hermès-Paris, or it may be inches away tucked inside a ribbon or corner.
    • There is even one design with four or five copyright symbols on one carrè.
    • After 1967, most scarves included a copyright symbol somewhere in the design.
    • Collections from 2000 forward may show the copyright symbol in the upper left panel next to Hermès-Paris in small print.
  • Hems
    • Most Hermès scarves are made with hand rolled and hand stitched hems, to the front.
  • Design title & artist
    • The design title and artist appear clearly marked and easy to read.
  • Accent on the E
    • Hermès is French and the second e almost always* has an accent over the second E.
      • HERMÈS or if in lower case, Hermès


HERMES LEATHER BRACELET

Bracelets are made with serial numbers. Again, the workmanship is completed by hand so stitching and the finish of the leather should be clean. The Hermes logo will have an accent over the second e. The hardware is gold- or silver-plated.
Hermes Belt
  • Leather
    • Hermès belts are made from only the highest quality calf leather, with the authentic leather smell, and will be soft and smooth to the touch. The ‘H’ Belts are always double sided, with a different color of leather on each side.
  • Buckle Hardware
    • Authentic Hermès belt buckles are made with highly expensive materials including Palladium and Gold. The buckle will be stamped with the Hermès logo, with an accent on the second E.
  • Stitching
    • The Stitching on an authentic Hermès belt will be perfectly straight, without nicks or imperfections when it is new. Every thread will be in place.









29 comments:

  1. I am having such trouble with a bag I bought on ebay it is an e square so 2001 but comes with tan velour dustbag and the zipper doesnt have an h on the end like i see on so many others... does this correspond with the year..

    please help!!

    Thank you

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    1. I have the same birkin with E square. Orange dustbag but no H on the end too

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  2. My husband and I recently bought an Hermes belt from the Las Vegas store in one of the luxury hotels. However, the logo is not stamped the way you described. In fact, part of it is very light. We watched the sales person unwrap it. Why is this?

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  3. I HAVE A 1950 KELLY BAG FROM MY MOTHER THE STAMP ONLY SAYS HERMES PARIS IT DOES NOT SAY MADE IN FRANCE BUT SHE BOUGHT IT ON HER HONEYMOON IN PARIS. THE CRAFTSMAN LETTER F IS STAMPED ON THERE. IS IT POSSIBLE IN 1950 HERMES DID NOT STAMP MADE IN FRANCE UNDER HERMES PARIS ON THE KELLY BAGS?

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  4. The authentic hermes stitching is at an angle not straight like you mention. seeing a straight stitch is automatic that the belt or bag is a fake.

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  5. i got the new Hermes handbag in new year for preowned4u.com.

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  6. Please help, my ex partner bought me a BIRKIN. However the pockets is leather and not suede inside. Please help xxx

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  7. What year did they discontinue ostrich Birkin 35

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  9. What is the number on the inside of a Hermes Kelly pocket?It says 43 and I can not find anything about this number.

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  11. Pls help me if it is authentic z square 2x

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  12. I have a Togo ...type (I think the right word) yellow one that is big with buckles on the front straps and brown leather trim it is all new looking despite it being obviously vintage and has canvas of some sort for the lining. I'm unable to find any markings other than Hermes on the front in between the straps and the authentic or seemly authentic Hermès mad in Paris or whatever on the pocket can someone help me figure it out. I didn't pay very much for it so it being real isn't my luck given I need to sell it after seeing the new Comercial that buys purses but need to know more about it before I let someone wanting to buy it tell me it's not real given the Christian consignment/thrift store I got it from said they had authenticated it.any comments appreciate I have traumatic brain injuries as well as lesions that affect my typing so apologize for the length

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  14. A lot of this information is completely incorrect. Anyone reading this would be better served doing his or her research on the Hermes section of the purse forum. The bit about the meaning of the shooting star stamp alone is laughably off base.

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  15. A lot of this information is completely incorrect. Anyone reading this would be better served doing his or her research on the Hermes section of the purse forum. The bit about the meaning of the shooting star stamp alone is laughably off base.

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